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Randall Beach's avatar

I did read Posner's book about 15 years ago. For a few years it had me convinced I had been wrong and that Oswald was the lone assassin. But in recent years I have seen more evidence pushing toward the multiple shooters scenario.

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Randall Beach's avatar

Who is this so-called "recent expert"? Reiner relied extensively on the expertise of Dick Russell, who has spent decades researching this case. I did read the Posner book but I remain convinced the forensics aren't there for a lone assassin.

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Tony's avatar

I watched an interview with a man named James Files and he admitted to being the shooter behind the fence,he explained everything pretty good and I'm just a 34yearold from Ohio I wasn't even born when this happened but believe him just because he knew a lot things that only one of the shooters could of known he explained it right down to the gun he used...if you haven't watched it I suggest you take a look .....oya and he did the interview in 1994 I believe which is crazy because people are still guessing what happened to JFK and he explained everything over 30 years ago

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Joe Vargas's avatar

Maybe this is throwing gasoline on the fire, but I would suggest “Mortal Error: The Shot That Killed JFK” by

Bonar Menninger

My reaction reading it was “wait. What?” Of all the books about the assassination, this one always seems to be overlooked. Maybe because people don’t want to believe it.

Two things always puzzle me about the assassination:

The photo of police and civilians running towards the Grassy Knoll. Why would non-police run toward what they thought was the place shots came from?

Two, where the Hell was Oswald going? Was he meeting someone? Who? Why?

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Sean Fitzpatrick's avatar

If this wasn’t in inside job there would be no need to cover it up. The coverup is all the evidence you need that the hit came from inside.

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Tom C's avatar

The FBI and CIA covered up their own incompetence, letting Oswald run free after returning from the USSR. They had hoped he would lead them to Soviet agents.

LBJ immediately insisted on a coverup, because he feared that Americans would demand WWIII if it were proved that Cuba or the USSR were behind it.

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Beth Welch's avatar

No, we’ll never know who killed JFK, but Reiner’s podcast and your article remind us that not all conspiracy theorists are of the dangerous QAnon variety.

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dolphyfan19's avatar

It feels more and more like Q Anon was actually a government operation to poison the well for all conspiracy theories.

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Sue Pierson's avatar

Just visited Dallas this past year and did a tour of the JFK assassination. It was very eye opening and made me realize there is no way that Oswald killed JFK. Loved reading this piece.

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Randall Beach's avatar

Agreed!

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Randall Beach's avatar

Okey-doke, will check it out.

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Jim Sechrest's avatar

Eight CIA people have disclosed that they helped organize the JFK assassination, over a period of forty years. This includes E. Howard Hunt and Frank Sturgis, who also went to jail for the Watergate break-in.

E. Howard Hunt said on video in 2004 that Cord Meyer led his CIA team that organized the JFK assassination, and that this team included David Morales, Bill Harvey, Frank Sturgis, David Atlee Phillips, and E. Howard Hunt (himself).

E. Howard Hunt said that Vice President Lyndon Johnson oversaw this CIA team that organized the JFK assassination.

LBJ’s big donor Clint Murchison was associated with the Rockefeller henchman John McCloy, who was on the Warren Commission, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, mob bosses Carlos Marcello and Sam Giancana, Richard Nixon, LBJ, and George Bush (of the CIA).

The Rockefeller brothers, including Nelson Rockefeller, and Prescott Bush helped to create the CIA, and the Rockefellers and Bushes ran the CIA when the CIA killed Kennedy. The Bushes, Rockefellers, and Clint Murchison were oil industrialists.

Kennedy supported CIA coup efforts in the (offshore) oil nations of Cuba and South Vietnam, but refused to escalate them into full-blown military invasions.

Rod MacKenzie of the Chicago mob wrote a book that said that LBJ’s fixer/hitman Mac Wallace told him that there were five shooting teams of four CIA/mob people on Dealey Plaza that day in Dallas.

Mac Wallace said that he was with Lee Harvey Oswald, L. Loy Factor, and Ruth Martinez on the 6th floor of the Texas School Book Depository. The two shots fired from this location missed Kennedy. One hit Governor Connally.

The two shots that hit President Kennedy came from the South Knoll (opposite the Grassy Knoll. The South Knoll is closely connected to the Railroad Overpass.

The team of four at the railroad included Charles Harrelson, whose son, actor Woody Harrelson says was in the CIA. He is normally described as a contract killer for the mob. Another possible shooter in this group of four was called “Dimitri” who was in an organization used as a front by the CIA called the ACCC. Three of these guys were arrested in a railroad car, posing as hobos.

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Jerry Rogers's avatar

Kill shot from the sewer.

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Michael Occhipinti's avatar

Dubious, most likely from the Ornamental Bushes at the Railroad Overpass

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Michael Occhipinti's avatar

You forgot Sam Giancana's team contracted out from France, the Corsicans. Three were flown out after by Ferrie and fed to crabs. One escaped to France via Mexico, Guidobaldo Fini, a cover name. Supposedly he fired the most fatal shot. When De Gaulle found out there were French assassins involved, he used the information to blackmail LBJ into providing support to the French (something like that, got it from Regicide).

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Thomas M. Conroy's avatar

Oswald acted alone. After 60 years that's the only conclusion that is consistent with the evidence.

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Dave Hunsaker's avatar

How is that consistent with the evidence unless you believe in fairy tales and magic bullets

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Thomas M. Conroy's avatar

I would suggest reading Gerald Posner's Case Closed. Available from the library.

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Jmon's avatar

It's not fairy tales. It adds up when you truly dig into it. The problem is that it's not very satisfying and won't generate book sales clicks or listens.

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Paul's avatar

Hey shit4brains, why then was Oswald in the cafeteria 5 minutes before the shooting?

The Motorcade was running 15 minutes later than the scheduled time

If Oswald did the shooting he wouldn't have been seen 5 minutes beforehand in the cafeteria by 3 witnesses

He would have been up in the window,which anybody that's been to realizes the shot would have been impossible and he would have no way of knowing the Motorcade was 15 minutes late

Nevermind Tippett was shot with a 38 auto and the casings at the scene didn't match the bullets in Tippet

Nevermind Oswald had a revolver which wouldn't leave shell casings and his revolver was 38 special

But thanks for playing hasbara shit4brains

Nevermind LBJ had one foot on the banana peel legally ,was getting kicked off the ticket and had his own personal hitman Mac Wallace

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Thomas M. Conroy's avatar

Oswald acted alone. That is the only conclusion consistent with the evidence.

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sourcreamus's avatar

8 employees who were in the cafeteria between 12:00 and 12:30 said they did not see Oswald there at that time.

Oswald was identified by 8 people as the man who shot Tippit, was seen ejecting the cartridges and reloading his revolver right after the shooting. Forensics said that they were shot from Oswald's gun to the exclusion of all others.

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Paul's avatar

Go fuck yourself

Multiple people saw Oswald in the Cafeteria

At 12:15 and 12:25, coworker Carolyn Arnold (and others) saw Oswald on the bottom floor eating

Tippit whom the bullets didn't match the shell casings ?

Tippit who multiple witnesses saw multiple shooters ?

Tippit who was shot with a semi auto and Oswald had a revolver ?

Who would Oswald's revolver leave shell casings at the scene ?

Nevermind the calibers don't match

Just because you are such a lying , sniveling piece of shit , I'm going to go out the incredible evidence Israel was involved in killing both JFK and RFK in ten unrelated YT videos,X threads and Subreddits just so your faygoty efforts are at least 1,000% counterproductive

https://www.unz.com/article/did-israel-kill-the-kennedies/

Why did both Mark Lane and David Lifton both change their names so people didn't know they are Jewish ?

Why was Yitzhak Rabin in Dallas that day ?

Why was Ruby supposedly a Hebrew to English translator for two or 3 Israeli reporters that happened to be in Dallas that day ?

Who would be most likely to use a Palestinian like Sirhan Sirhan as a patsy ?

Zapruder was a 33rd degree FreeMason

Ruby and Zapruder attended the same Dallas synagogue

Ruby told his Rabbi he killed LHO for the Jews

Specter was Jewish and Specter admitted implicitly he was completely wrong when he begged Vincent Salandria to say Specter was just dumb AF instead of a corrupt POS

George De Mohrenschildt's wife was decades long business partners with Zapruder

DalTex Building was owned by Ashkenazis

JFK was in town specifically to speak to a group of Ashkenazis

Jewish sources have said LBJ was Americas first Ashkenazi president

Sam Bloom was the person that changed the parade route

Jolyon West that interviewed Ruby and just before Ruby's psychotic break was an Ashkenazi as well

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Paul's avatar

Every time you Ashkenazi faygots reply sophieticly and without offering a shred of evidence,links , corroboration etc,in response I go post the evidence of Oswald being completely framed in 10 random, completely unrelated YT videos, subreddits,X threads etc

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLD8tmFAuglpdIXB1ksWg6KVCMoPbtnJF&si=1bjnMioSkbAkT_AA

GFU and don't forget to take your SSRI faygot

FYZi you are aware that ashkenazis are the most incredibly inbred people on the planet right ?

Thanks to Sabbatean-Frankism I presume

So incredibly inbred that they alone or they predominantly suffer from 8 of the 16 most common genetic diseases

8 for them

8 for everybody else

https://arupconsult.com/content/ashkenazi-jewish-genetic-diseases

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Paul's avatar

http://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/why-officer-tippit-stopped-his-killer

While accompanied by four Dallas detectives in an unmarked car headed for DPD’s downtown headquarters, Oswald is asked to give his name. He ignores the request. Perturbed, Detective Paul Bentley pulls a billfold from Oswald’s hip pocket and begins to examine its contents. He finds ID cards for both a Lee Oswald and an A. Hidell. “Who are you?” asks Bentley again. “You’re the detective,” Oswald finally answers back. “You figure it out.” (Armstrong, p. 870)

But wait. They just found Oswald’s wallet at 10th & Patton, right? (Armstrong, p. 868) So Oswald carried two wallets, one of which he was good enough to leave at the Tippit murder scene? Along with four shell casings from a .38 caliber revolver?

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Paul's avatar

Go fuk yourself

http://22november1963.org.uk/did-lee-harvey-oswald-kill-officer-jd-tippit

The FBI (CE 1987 [WCHE, vol.24, p.18]) and the Secret Service (Commission Document 87, p.340) independently measured the time they took to walk briskly from the rented room to the site of the murder. They each took 12 minutes. Without assistance, Oswald could not have reached Tippit in time to shoot him.

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Dennis Gleason's avatar

Reiner only got one out of four hit men correct. Charles Nicoletti. The shooter behind the picket fence, who delivered the fatal head shot, was James Files, a veteran hit man who worked for Sam Giancona.

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Danny Arnette's avatar

Posner is a CIA asset!

His book is trash!

Read Phillip Nelson's

LBJ, Mastermind of the JFK assassination!

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Pete's avatar

I concur.

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Chuck Huebner's avatar

The fact that many of the records of the shooting are still to this day classified is in my opinion solid proof Oswald was not the trigger man, but rather just one of a number of shooters and conspirators who were there that day.

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Chris Gay's avatar

Note Reiner's bait-and-switch here: First he promises to name the shooters, then he ends up acknowledging that his Big Reveal is just a guess, no more enlightening or conclusive than any other theory posited over the past 60 years. If Reiner, like everyone else who's looked into this case, "can't say for a certainty" what happened, then why is he talking about it at all, and why should anyone listen to him? What has he said that hasn't been said already? Being famous doesn't make a person smart, and it doesn't give him any more insight into this case than anyone else has.

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Janko Svarc's avatar

Knowledge and insight can only come from hard investigative work. So we turn to people like Reiner: to enhance our own insight and knowledge.

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C Manhattan's avatar

I'll try to make this short... lol

J Edgar Hoover (FBI Operatives/Guy Banister, etc.,) + CIA (operatives/Dulles) w/ Cuban Operatives (Bay of Pigs) + Mafia (Santo Trafficante/Carlos Marcello/ Jack Ruby) + Majic-12 (blessing) + Oswald (Fall guy/ Quadruple agent/CIA grooming/FBI Informat/Russian KGB grooming) = Assassination of JFK.

J. Edgar Hoover: Was running the FBI for 36 years before Kennedy became president. Hoover hated JKF (and RKF) - two young new guys trying to come in and tell Hoover what to do. JFK (RKF) wanted to rain in Hoover's power, have more control over the FBI, and a heavier crackdown on organized crime (the Mafia). They knew Hoover had turned a blind eye to many in the Mafia, essentially giving them a pass for decades. JFK/RKF wanted to put an end to Hoover and his reign. Hoover didn't like this at all and realized it was best to get rid of JFK/RFK. But how? The motivation and planning begins...

CIA: JFK said he wanted to "splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds." This was based on Kennedy's frustration with the CIA's failed attempt to overthrow the Cuban government (Fidel Castro) during the Bay of Pigs. CIA Director Dulles had almost 20 years of service with the CIA, was humiliated after being fired by Kennedy over the failed Bay of Pigs event. Dulles was furious at Kennedy and wanted revenge.

Dulles and other high-level CIA operatives were also pissed at Kennedy for his refusal to send in the military to support during the Bay of Pigs. They blamed Kennedy for the failed coup, which resulted in hundreds of Cuban CIA operatives dead (maybe even CIA agents dead but we will never know). This led to CIA/Cuban operatives involved in the Bay of Pigs also wanting Kennedy dead.

NOTE: Some of the Cuban Exile Operatives/Affiliates who played a role in the JFK assassination were: Herminio Diaz Garcia, Eladio del Valle, Frank Fiorini (Sturgis), Tony Cuesta, and more.

The Mafia: This connection is straightforward. CIA Dulles connected with mob boss Santo Trafficante, who was friends with mob boss Carlos Marcello, who was in turn connected to Jack Ruby. Carlos Marcello hated JKF and RFK. JFK/RKF had Marcello arrested and deported, but he snuck back into the country and wanted revenge. Marcello stated that "he was going to arrange to have President Kennedy murdered in some way." And he would need to take out "insurance" for the assassination by "setting up a nut to take the blame." Marcello's friend and fellow mob boss said, "Mark my word, this man Kennedy is in trouble, and he will get what is coming to him. Kennedy's got going to make it to the election. He is going to be hit."

The role of the Mafia (Marcello) in JFK's assassination was focused on using Ruby who then would kill Oswald before he could talk. The mafia (or Marcello) was also connected directly to the FBI and Hoover through the FBI agent Guy Bannister. Bannister helped groom Oswald and played a role in placing him as the fall guy. Bannister was also connected with helping some of the members of the assassin teams to fly out of Texas with the help David Ferrie.

Lee Harvey Oswald: He was connected to almost every group on the list. I do believe Oswald was part of the assassin group (a 3 man team) with access to the Book Depository, probably the lookout with two CIA/FBI operatives. The shooter in this group probably took a shot but missed. Either way, Oswald would take the blame and be linked to the killing, and later murdered by Ruby to be silenced.

Another assassin group behind the fence had two FBI/CIA operatives wearing suits and another CIA Cuban Exile Operative wearing railroad worker clothes with a toolbox. One man in a suit was posing as a lookout with fake credentials keeping people away. The other man in a suit was a shooter. After the shooter hit Kennedy, the rifle was passed to the man in a railroad worker outfit, who quickly disassembled it, placed it in the toolbox, and fled. The FBI/CIA agents were posing as security or undercover for the event so local police would give them a pass and not think twice. They also ensured the railroad worker got away with the weapon.

There were other teams set up who also most likely took a shot perhaps the initial one that hit Kennedy. All the teams were communicating through secure CIA radio communications with a radio frequency scrambler to ensure they were not being listened to. There were many people involved in all of this. It's almost like every conspiracy theory put together haha. I am surprised Rob Reiner made no mention of Hoover's involvement. The FBI was heavily involved all throughout the process, joining forces, and connecting all the dots with the CIA operatives/Mafia/Oswald and the others mentioned.

However, none of this would have been approved with the blessings of Majic-12 who also had an interest in JFK being killed to keep their operations a secret. Kennedy wanted to know everything Majic-12 was doing and they feared he would tell the truth about it all to the American public. There is no way they would let this happen.

Therefore, Majic-12 also played a role in allowing/ensuring JFK was killed. And Lyndon Johnson knew the truth but did not want to be next. The powers that be were too large and he knew it. So, to get their good graces he appointed Dulles to the Warren Commission with the help of Hoover/FBI, which resulted in the lone gunman one shooter bs.

If you want to watch something very interesting on all this. Here's a good link: https://farsight.org/FarsightPress/JFK_main_page.html

located

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Tom Clifford's avatar

Agree. However IMO I'm convinced Oswald acted alone. Zapruder and CADM plotted trajectory did it. Oswald also attempted to kill Edwin Walker.

But, to each his own. 🇺🇸

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Crispin Muns's avatar

There was Oswald's palm print on the rifle. recent expert says fingerprints as well. residue evidence was found on his hands of his firing a gun, usually cheeks aren't tested, but was only done so people would not question why not tested. The paraffin test often showed false positives & negatives & wasn't considered reliable, but was more used as a threat to elicit confessions. I love Rob Reiner, but like David Crosby at Monterrey POP, these type of claims are common for wonderful artists that lack the investigational skills necessary to find or approach evidential truth.

The Posner book & the Peter Jennings special show that the track of the assassin's bullets is proven & it is Oswald. There may be some wiggle room to speculate if he planned with others, but there is no substantial evidence of that.

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Paul B. Cohen's avatar

Let’s not forget Bugliosi’s massive tome proving Oswald was the murderer.

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Paul's avatar

Bugliosi's book " Helter Skelter " is complete horseshit as well

https://open.substack.com/pub/pointswestnewsletter/p/helter-skelter

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Paul's avatar

Bugliosi was an insanely corrupt,POS,moral cripple,and intellectual coward,and incredible faygot just like you

https://youtu.be/YA9meDkTRJA?si=dYsNtaIRb86P42EM

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Paul's avatar

Bugliosi was an incredibly corrupt POS

See O'Neill's chaos for the receipts

Absolutely nobody involved believed in Helter Skelter other than Bugliosi

Hey shit4brains, why then was Oswald in the cafeteria 5 minutes before the shooting?

The Motorcade was running 15 minutes later than the scheduled time

If Oswald did the shooting he wouldn't have been seen 5 minutes beforehand in the cafeteria by 3 witnesses

He would have been up in the window,which anybody that's been to realizes the shot would have been impossible and he would have no way of knowing the Motorcade was 15 minutes late

Nevermind Tippett was shot with a 38 auto and the casings at the scene didn't match the bullets in Tippet

Nevermind Oswald had a revolver which wouldn't leave shell casings and his revolver was 38 special

But thanks for playing hasbara shit4brains

Nevermind LBJ had one foot on the banana peel legally ,was getting kicked off the ticket and had his own personal hitman Mac Wallace

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Paul B. Cohen's avatar

Forget the Kennedy assassination, your anger and hatred are destroying you.

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Paul's avatar

LHO was seen my multiple eye witnesses in the cafeteria of the TSBD minutes before the shooting

Had he actually been involved,no way he would have been in the cafeteria, because the Motorcade was running around 15 minutes late and he had no way of knowing this

CIA had 42 documents on LHO

180 pages

The FBI has to release them

CIA still refuses to

Ruth Paine's entire family was CIA A.F.

The bullets in Tippetts body didn't match the shell casings at the scene

Nevermind Oswald had a revolver

And Oswald's revolver was a 38 special

Tippett was killed with a 38 auto

Jack Ruby and Zapruder belonged to the same Dallas synagogue

Ruby told his Rabbi he killed LHO for the Jews

Ruby despised RFK

Why would he care about JFK getting killed

Rabin and two Israeli reporters just happened to be in Dallas that day

RFK Jewnior acknowledges explicitly Sirhan Sirhan is a patsy

Who would be most likely to use a Palestinian as a patsy ?

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Paul's avatar

Go fuck yourself

FYI ashkenazis are the most incredibly inbred people on the planet

So incredibly inbred that they alone,or they predominantly suffer from 8 of the world's 16 most common genetic diseases

8 for Ashkenazis

8 for everybody else

https://arupconsult.com/content/ashkenazi-jewish-genetic-diseases

https://www.unz.com/article/did-israel-kill-the-kennedies/

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Sam Ernest's avatar

Go pound sand jagoff. Who do you think you are? All you are is a blowhard and a bully… Little dick, big mouth.

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Jmon's avatar

Dead on. Someone at the Cuban embassy in Mexico might have known he was planning this, but he planned it and he did it.

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Tom Clifford's avatar

Agree!

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Michael Occhipinti's avatar

Why say that when we know for a FACT that it was several people? Forensic evidence says say, but you just parrot stuff

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Pete's avatar

They say we don’t know who killed Kennedy. Not true we do know now. The fatal headshot as outlandish and far out as it may sound was fired from the storm drain on Dealey plaza. It could only come this place. Ballistic experts have confirmed this. JFK’s head is blown upwards and to the left so the shot could not come from the grassy knoll as I believed it for decades. As the grassy knoll is at a higher level. The driver stopped the car (against protocol) just in front of the storm drain. He was paid to do it in case Kennedy wasn’t dead yet that’s why he looks backwards two times to check. The shooter in the storm drain was Jack Allen Lawrence who knew Jack Ruby from the Carousel club.

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Damian Jackson's avatar

A rich mans trick(documenary) was very definitve/believable on names etc, storm drain and lawrence but are we to believe that , like any book or doco it could be crap

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